[Mb-civic] Go easy on Blair

[Cheeseburger]

Re:  Go easy on Blair




Jack wrote:


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Ian & Mr Cheese:

Thank you for yet another reminder of the downside of being a paid soldier;
frankly I never understood the upside.

If we had a chairman, better discipline in the discussion would prevail. So
should we restrain ourselves and embrace a discussion using relevance and
materiality?

My point of discussion, for which I seek a response is:

        "Tony Blair is simply the most effective and modern and reliable
elected politician in the world today."

I suggest the world standard for such an accolade is:

  a.. the man's vision toward the world (democratic),
  b.. the manner of his public demeanour and behaviour (savvy), and
  c.. that the leader's feelings are about the commonweal, generally and
usually.

     I suggest about Blair:   "His vision is democratic; his politics savvy;
and his feelings are deeply rooted in the commonweal."

Would you care to address your thoughts about leadership standards of the
world's leaders in these or other relevant terms?
Do you think using these terms there is a better elected leader on the
planet's world stage?

 I reference Roosevelt and Truman - both world players who killed many
earthlings.
Truman's use of the bomb is still a debate topic.

We know life is transient. Listen to Blair yesterday in the midst of a visit
from the dark side.

Can political life be meaningful? Is cynicism functional?

Dublinjack

PS Thanks for correcting my typos
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If Ian, or anyone else, wishes to address the above questions, I will let
them do so.  Rather, I will address where it all came from to begin with.

I was in the middle of calling Blair an ass for his involvement in this new
improved "Iraq War", where 100,000 Iraqi civilians remain buried under the
ground there, and American G.I's continue to come back in body bags from
over there.

And you stepped in stating, or wishing to discuss, what a "great leader"
Blair is.

I, again, reiterate, that while Blair might surely be "a great leader" (I
don't really know, I haven't researched Blair's actions on mainland Britain
that much yet), he remains an ass for his involvement in, participation in,
and perpetuation of "The Iraq War".

He stood shoulder to shoulder with Bush, a now relatively well-recognized
American Abomination, all the way down the line, lies, deceptions, bombs,
dead bodies, and all.

That particular choice of his, my friend, makes Blair an Ass.

Maybe he's just Half of an Ass since he is such a "great leader on mainland
Britain".

Either way, our people keep coming back in body bags from Iraq, and partly,
a very BIG part, due to Blair's Decisions in the entire matter.

That anyone might wish to soften Blair's approval of, participation in, etc,
this "Iraq War", which has wound up costing billions, lives, reputations,
etc, and created an actual breeding ground for "Terrorism" itself, by saying
he had a long standing political obligation to uphold international ties and
goodwill with "American Allies", still will never sit well with me.

An illegal, concocted war, based on deceptions, lies, misdirections, etc etc
etc, remains just that.

And dead bodies of innocent people thrown into the mouth of Death in such a
concocted War, remains just that, dead bodies.

And an Ass remains an Ass.

Half an Ass, or a complete one.

Other than that, maybe he's a really cool guy, I wouldn't know, I've never
met him.

Again, some people look at "great world leaders" and they see progress,
benevolence, democratic ways, light, hope, etc.

The first thing I look for is whether they are soaked in blood of Innocents.

In this particular case, Blair, just like Bush, remains soaked from head to
toe, in Blood.

Apparently great world leaders at The Top bathe much more frequently than
the rest of us here at The Bottom.

That would explain a lot of things.





Cheeseburger

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