[Mb-hair] also it would be nice if people commenting onthe60sactually received

[Michael Butler]

The problem in not so much what one opines on the List as it is the
offensive way some remarks, frequently in fact, are received by the others.
Michael

> but yes nina in a way
> youre being older and having experienced more of the 60s
> etc
> or in those in the original company who were adults
> yes i believe you do have an appreciation i dont
> 
> and im just dramaturgical issues
> it is not blasphemy to argue for the updating of hair
> 
> but in any event i am not trying to offend anyone
> just trying to help
> 
> in the future i shall keep more of my opinions to myself
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Little Birdie" <lbirdie at hotmail.com>
> To: <mb-hair at islandlists.com>
> Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 4:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] also it would be nice if people commenting
> onthe60sactually remem
> 
> 
>> Richard,
>> 
>> I am afraid I must disagree strongly with your assertion that those who
>> remember the sixties, or have seen the original production are more
>> qualified to speak on these issues. By that logic I, being older than you
>> and having seen the original production many more times than you, and
> having
>> even been in it way back when, would be more qualified than you to have an
>> opinion here. Obviously I do not have more of a right to my opinion than
> you
>> do - we all are qualified to speak to what makes Hair work for us. That
>> someone doesn't remember the sixties, or only remembers it slightly, does
>> not make their opinion any more or less valid than those who were there
>> then. I saw the original production hundreds of times  - eight times a
> week
>> when I worked as the concession girl. Does that make my opinion more
>> important? Does my having been in the show in 1973 make it even more so?
> In
>> my humble opinion it does not.
>> 
>> There is another point you make (in a different email, but I speak to it
>> here to conserve bandwidth) that I feel I must comment on. You say:
>> 
>>> i am not being hostile and i dont care for how whenever someone dissents
> it
>>> is interpreted as hostility
>> 
>> I truly do not agree with you that people here respond to any disagreement
>> by interpreting it as hostility. While I completely understand that you do
>> not feel that your way of dialoging is hostile, I know that this problem
>> comes up with such regularity that I hope you can come to accept that
> people
>> here do interpret your style of disagreement as hostile. I accept that you
>> do not feel that you were being hostile, but if you are going to be a
> member
>> of a group you have to find a way to respect the general values of that
>> group, whether you agree with them or not. So while I accept that you do
> not
>> feel that the way your disagree with people is hostile I would encourage
> you
>> to accept that in the general value system of this group your style of
>> writing feels hostile to many of us. There is no judgment inherent in
> this -
>> we are not wrong for feeling this, and you are not wrong for feeling you
> are
>> not hostile. But if you want to be a member of this group you will need to
>> communicate your thoughts in a way that isn't interpreted as argumentative
>> by the group. In certain cultures things that we wouldn't think twice
> about
>> doing are considered very rude. If you were traveling in a different
> culture
>> I would hope that you would make an effort to adapt your behavior to the
>> societal rules of that culture. Think of this as a situation like that.
> Even
>> if you feel that we are completely wrong to interpret you as hostile I
>> encourage you to write in a style that opens discussion instead of causing
>> argument.
>> 
>> I have made every effort to write about these things in a way that
> stresses
>> that this is only my opinion. Please note that I understand that you feel
>> you do nothing wrong in these situations. Please show me (and others) the
>> respect that I have tried to show you in this post. For instance: By all
>> means tell Jim why you feel it is better to update certain portions of
> Hair,
>> and allow him to tell you why he disagrees. But when you turn it into a
>> discussion of why your opinion is more valid than his that tends to be
>> interpreted as hostile, and I ask as the moderator here that you don't
> post
>> things like that.
>> 
>> Nina
>> 
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>> http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair
>> 
>> 
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