[Mb-hair] God said it. - WHEN? - I believe it. DO I? That settlesit - WHAT?

Wed Aug 17 17:00:11 PDT 2005

Richard.. My belief is this.. First off I believe in Karma.. I think that what we do and how we treat others comes back to us in one way or another.. My Uncle for example.. when my Father died and shortly after that his mother.. the moneys.. house, stock etc.. was to be divided up between my fathers kids, and his kids.. He basically walked away with over 2/3rds of what should have been ours.. Money really doesn't mean that much to me (just makes life a little easier but.. whatever) At any rate.. Both he and his wife have had many many health issues after the fact.. coincidence? Maybe.. But I believe it's Karma. ,, I also believe in Life after death.. and I guess my reasons for this are that it is beyond my grasp of thinking... that there is actually a dreamless sleep forever gone.. Is it a fear? Maybe, but I don't think so as I am not afraid of death. I also came up with a concept many years back and have since read that at least one other.. (Mick Mars, guitar player for Motl
 ey
 Crue.. wrote about it in the book, The Dirt,) I believe that the long tunnel with the bright light at the end is actually the birthing canal, and the loved ones we see, in the near death experiences, are actually our new loved ones.. beckoning us forward.. The bright light.. I'm sure there is not much light inside.. Those who come back from the near death experiences are the still bornâ€™s. I don't ask others to believe as I do.. But that is my guess about something we will never know the answers too. I also wonder if some if not all of the people we run into in our everyday lives, especially those where we immediately have some bond with.. are people from our past lives.. have you ever met someone for the first time.. and immediately bonded with them, as if you knew them forever? Anyway.. Those are my "Gods" or my beliefs.. I think that scientists and Darwin have proven evolution.. Anyway... I have no problem with people believing in one God, Many Gods, Th Bible.. or that w
 e are
 UFO Spawn.... I just have a problem with people who try to force their opinions on the world.. be it through war or door to door. We all have brains... and we all know how to use them.. Our souls are only as good as wee make them.. JIM

richard haase <hotprojects at nyc.rr.com> wrote:the only thing is james
me being the son of a virtuous atheist
organized religion can be shit
which is not the same as one mans souls commune with god
also as my late father used to say
a virtuous atheist is acceptable in the sight of god
but dont dont jim please
confuse organized religion with true religion
----- Original Message ----- 
From: James Pappaconstantine 
To: fotoblue at flash.net ; mb-hair at islandlists.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 7:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] God said it. - WHEN? - I believe it. DO I? That settlesit - WHAT?

Right On.. Dagmar, Right On... I do think that the people who wrote the book had good intentions at heart, but like everything, if people see there is power and money to be made off something they typically do it. Religeon is such a joke to me.. How many wars were fought in the name of GOD? Funny yet sad story.. my guitar players x girlfriend had just gotten her first job.. (many years ago) the preist from their church came over to their home while we were visiting.. He was making his rounds to collect money.. I remember him asking Lisa, how much she made at her job and asking about their families new car.. Then he went on to the parents and asked them to up their donation.. What the hell is that all about? One would think that Church and State were one.. hmmm.. At anyrate.. religeon is like politics with me.. I can't stay on the subject too long as I get  frustrated with it. 

On another note: Are we going to meet at the Reunion? I know last year or maybe more we had a few emails back and fourth as I finally realized who you were after years of admireing your work with some of the greats.. Mott the Hoople ... Mick Ronson... I am still doing my thing.. Shot a few bands this past month.. Tsar, Redwalls and The Shout Outlouds, All are up and comings.. BUt I think that is the best time to get them.. I just shot this cool Rock a billy band in Boston a month or so back too.. The Legendary Shack Shakers.. They were a lot of fun. Trying to get in to shoot Hall and Oates Sept. 3rd, but not sure how that one is ganna play out. At anyrate.. I realize that NYC is a bit of trip for you but I do hope you are gonna make it. I would really like to meet you... You've got a great eye.. JIM

"fotoblue at flash.net" <fotoblue at flash.net> wrote:
Hi Jim, 
unfortunately I must agree with you, it is just a BOOK, written by people 
and most (all?) religions are just instruments of control of the mass of
humans, 
wielded by a few more clever ones...

God is mostly silent these days. I cannot believe he idly tosses a tsunami
around!
And he has said none of the things in the bible. That's a fact. 

Dead? Maybe. Or maybe he is a great concentration of spirit that surrounds
us?
and what we do with it creates/triggers the results?

Or could it be that god/gods seem to have either given up on his/their
creations 
and is/are occupied with other issues (?) 
or do they just not care and watch to see what we will do with what we have
been 
given?

The outlook is not bright at all.

Dagmar
(on a more serious note than usually)

Original Message:
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From: James Pappaconstantine georgeberger69 at yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 19:35:14 -0700 (PDT)
To: mb-hair at islandlists.com
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] "God said it. I believe it. That settles it"

GOD is dead. 

Years ago profits wrote a book to help us live a better life, but who is to
say what's 
better for an individual. I think a lot of what the Bible preaches is or
could be good for 
society. But too many people take stock in that book like it was a road map
for their 
lives.. Wake up people! It's a fu*king book! Indians pray on many Gods.
Some pray to 
Buddha, others to Ala.. but while they are all praying to their Gods.. The
appointed 
governments are preying on them. I am so tired of Governments screwing
people, 
killing people in the name of Peace and Religion. GOD is dead.. If he were
not.. he 
would not let such evil take control.. The meek shall inherit... Inherit
what? The only 
thing that'll be left when they get through are the cock roaches... maybe
that's what 
they want.. seeing how they are the biggest cock roaches of them all.. 

A very Cynical JIM

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