[Mb-civic] MUST READ: Transcript of 'Brilliant Speech by Woman on Arab TV' (Thanks, Michael and Golshori!)
William Swiggard
swiggard at comcast.net
Sat Mar 4 05:42:50 PST 2006
Arab-American Psychologist Wafa Sultan: There Is No Clash of
Civilizations but a Clash between the Mentality of the Middle Ages and
That of the 21st Century
Following are excerpts from an interview with Arab-American psychologist
Wafa Sultan. The interview was aired on Al-Jazeera TV on February 21, 2006
.
Wafa Sultan: The clash we are witnessing around the world is not a clash
of religions, or a clash of civilizations. It is a clash between two
opposites, between two eras. It is a clash between a mentality that
belongs to the Middle Ages and another mentality that belongs to the
21st century. It is a clash between civilization and backwardness,
between the civilized and the primitive, between barbarity and
rationality. It is a clash between freedom and oppression, between
democracy and dictatorship. It is a clash between human rights, on the
one hand, and the violation of these rights, on other hand. It is a
clash between those who treat women like beasts, and those who treat
them like human beings. What we see today is not a clash of
civilizations. Civilizations do not clash, but compete.
[...]
Host: I understand from your words that what is happening today is a
clash between the culture of the West, and the backwardness and
ignorance of the Muslims?
Wafa Sultan: Yes, that is what I mean.
[...]
Host: Who came up with the concept of a clash of civilizations? Was it
not Samuel Huntington? It was not Bin Laden. I would like to discuss
this issue, if you don't mind...
Wafa Sultan: The Muslims are the ones who began using this expression.
The Muslims are the ones who began the clash of civilizations. The
Prophet of Islam said: "I was ordered to fight the people until they
believe in Allah and His Messenger." When the Muslims divided the people
into Muslims and non-Muslims, and called to fight the others until they
believe in what they themselves believe, they started this clash, and
began this war. In order to start this war, they must reexamine their
Islamic books and curricula, which are full of calls for takfir and
fighting the infidels.
My colleague has said that he never offends other people's beliefs. What
civilization on the face of this earth allows him to call other people
by names that they did not choose for themselves? Once, he calls them
Ahl Al-Dhimma, another time he calls them the "People of the Book," and
yet another time he compares them to apes and pigs, or he calls the
Christians "those who incur Allah's wrath." Who told you that they are
"People of the Book"? They are not the People of the Book, they are
people of many books. All the useful scientific books that you have
today are theirs, the fruit of their free and creative thinking. What
gives you the right to call them "those who incur Allah's wrath," or
"those who have gone astray," and then come here and say that your
religion commands you to refrain from offending the beliefs of others?
I am not a Christian, a Muslim, or a Jew. I am a secular human being. I
do not believe in the supernatural, but I respect others' right to
believe in it.
Dr. Ibrahim Al-Khouli: Are you a heretic?
Wafa Sultan: You can say whatever you like. I am a secular human being
who does not believe in the supernatural...
Dr. Ibrahim Al-Khouli: If you are a heretic, there is no point in
rebuking you, since you have blasphemed against Islam, the Prophet, and
the Koran...
Wafa Sultan: These are personal matters that do not concern you.
[...]
Wafa Sultan: Brother, you can believe in stones, as long as you don't
throw them at me. You are free to worship whoever you want, but other
people's beliefs are not your concern, whether they believe that the
Messiah is God, son of Mary, or that Satan is God, son of Mary. Let
people have their beliefs.
[...]
Wafa Sultan: The Jews have come from the tragedy (of the Holocaust), and
forced the world to respect them, with their knowledge, not with their
terror, with their work, not their crying and yelling. Humanity owes
most of the discoveries and science of the 19th and 20th centuries to
Jewish scientists. 15 million people, scattered throughout the world,
united and won their rights through work and knowledge. We have not seen
a single Jew blow himself up in a German restaurant. We have not seen a
single Jew destroy a church. We have not seen a single Jew protest by
killing people. The Muslims have turned three Buddha statues into
rubble. We have not seen a single Buddhist burn down a Mosque, kill a
Muslim, or burn down an embassy. Only the Muslims defend their beliefs
by burning down churches, killing people, and destroying embassies. This
path will not yield any results. The Muslims must ask themselves what
they can do for humankind, before they demand that humankind respect them.
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