[Mb-civic] Re: Mb-civic Digest, Vol 7, Issue 28

[Michael Butler]

Al Baraka,
Yours #4, 5, & 7 in this issue 28 of Vol.7 are scrubbed as they are in html.
I think they are probably worth a read. Could you send them in text?
Michael

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>  1. Re: Richard-The 'A's have it! (Barbara Siomos)
>  2. The Father, Son, and Holy Cheeseburger (maxfury)
>  3. Re: Re: Mb-civic Digest, Vol 7, Issue 22 HELP FOR 2ND    EX WIFE
>     (Alexander Harper)
>  4. Re: Self-Agrandizing? Re: To Lyle or The Wrath of K'ang
>     (Alexander Harper)
>  5. Re: but what is also true is if all christians were    like Ian
>     (Alexander Harper)
>  6. Re: Richard-The 'A's have it! (richard haase)
>  7. Re: Richard-The 'A's have it! (Alexander Harper)
>  8. Re: ENOUGH ALREADY!! (Alexander Harper)
>  9. Re: Richard-The 'A's have it! (richard haase)
> 10. Re: Richard-The 'A's have it! (richard haase)
> 11. also ms nina and tribe i think its only fair if im good    for
>     awhile my black marks should be erased (richard haase)
> 12. A Super Message-Thanks (Michael Butler)
> 13. Re: Sticking D.C. With the Tab (Rhaerther at aol.com)
> 14. Dean Jumps In (Michael Butler)
> 15. Alternet: The Conservative Marketing Machine (michael at intrafi.com)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:28:48 -0500
> From: barbarasiomos38 at webtv.net (Barbara Siomos)
> Subject: Re: [Mb-civic] Richard-The 'A's have it!
> To: mb-civic at islandlists.com
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> Richard...
> 
> Enough is supposed to mean enough.... seems like YOU are trying to stir
> things up again. Why?
> peace,
> barbara
>> From: mike at michaeldanso.com(Michael?Danso)
>> Date: Tue, Jan 11, 2005, 1:23pm
>> To: mb-civic at islandlists.com
>> Subject: [Mb-civic] ENOUGH ALREADY!!
> 
> Hello Everyone. This is a marvelous informational International Forum
> which has been provided to us all. I hope it is continued to be used
> wisely. This is my first communicade. Have I addressed it properly?
> 
> I have been reading the religious gobbledygook and philosophical
> fartings of so many of you over the past few months that I have FINALLY
> been prompted to ask that I be permitted to submit and place the
> following very small and personal concept upon the very messy banquet
> table set before us all. ( So many uncleared Courses...tsk-tsk..)
> First, please allow me to clear a small corner space at this Universal
> Round-Table you have over time so eloquently covered with layer upon
> layer of Disagreement, Fuss, Sarcasm, Plagiarism, Inner Fears, Vengeful
> Attitudes, Intellectual Snobbism, Mental, Physical, Emotional and
> Spiritual Disharmony, Sadness, Lack of Joy, Disillusionment, Forceful
> Placement of Collective and Personal Egoist Ideologies as well as
> quotations of and from all and sundry which may suit and fit a
> particular point but fail the over-all discussion.
> Ah! After rubbing diligently with all of my Heart at this same spot, I
> now see the purity of the substance and Space God has provided us to
> place the parts of ourselves we wish to share with others somehow
> showing through. What a Glow...
> I will now place my lovely piece of fresh fruit given to me by The
> Universe through a very beautiful and wise Grandmother. It is a simple
> fruit which not only bursts with delightful flavor but is nourishing and
> regenerative as well. Here it is...
> " THERE IS ONLY GOD EVERYTHING ELSE IS DOGMA "
> I have carried this fruit in my mind's knapsack all of my life. My Path
> has taken me all over the planet and still does.
> I am fortunate in the fact that my Life Experience has allowed me to
> encounter so many multi-varied peoples, places, things and ways of being
> that I constantly take time and wonder at it all as I make my way
> through. When I see the positive and negatives I and others experience,
> I try to take as active a part as I can to positively influence the
> occasion, and reach back and take another bite and am regenerated. Try
> it. Pare away everything you think you know and then see what is left.
> Time to end this communicade. I hope you find it informative,
> interesting and useful. If you use your ego as a positive tool, you
> will. Meanwhile, I am going out this afternoon to a rehearsal of a
> musical one man show I have written. I will put on my warmest coat,
> sweater, scarf and shoes because it is snowing outside. I will close my
> front door and walk down the street breathing in the air, hopefully hear
> a bird ( if it is a pigeon cooing, so be it )look up at a gray-blue sky
> and hopefully no Gull will inadvertently "sigh with relief" as it passes
> overhead ( smile ) and try to catch a snowflake on my tongue. Some of
> the grass will be green: a dandelion or two will be welcomed and Trees
> will wear their thick, brown winter bark..
> I will make sure that two things will definitely happen on my walk: The
> first will be that I will in some way Thank God for all of these simple
> pleasures I am being allowed to experience. The second is that I will
> intentionally smile into the eyes of the first Bi-pedal Humanoid
> Carbon-based Creature I see ...( 'Human' for short...I am such a Leo!
> ...and toss as much Psychic Joy I can into their gaze just to share the
> warm glow of Living Here and Now together.
> 
> As Lyle has said: " Peace " I am
> 
> Michael Danso 
> 
> Go to www.michaeldanso.com site for Contact information.
> 
> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:32:17 -0600
> From: "maxfury" <maxfury at granderiver.net>
> Subject: [Mb-civic] The Father, Son, and Holy Cheeseburger
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> The Father, Son, and Holy Cheeseburger
> 
> 
> 
> What a trip it is skimming through Hell here.  Who knows, maybe as the guy who
> was giving my battery a jump in the supermarket parking lot in my little town
> here who suddenly started talking like the entire Civic List in person stated
> maybe this *is* Hell.  He smiled, took the cables off the battery, and then
> left.
> 
> Who knows whether he is right or not, however he is not the first complete
> stranger throughout the years who has walked up to me out of the blue under
> one circumstance or the other and blurted out "What if this really *is* Hell,
> Cheeseburger...".
> 
> I always think about those people, now and then, as during the brief
> conversations we have, their knowledge of the world and a vast amount of
> subjects seem almost unsurpassed in quality, and then their closing statement
> always puts that red hot cherry on top of their apparent versedness.
> 
> And then I go on my merry little way, observing the world.  As I observe, it
> looks more and more like "Hell" the more I see.  LOL.
> 
> Oh well, right after I was talking about Jeb Bush going into Tsunami land to
> get some fake humanitarian credentials for future political purposes, my hard
> drive died.  I had sent that, and had just finished and sent an email to an
> old acquaintance who was enquiring how I was holding up after being forced
> into abject poverty and bankruptcy by taking care of my dying mother every
> night for 2 months as she went to heaven, and I replied that it wasn't going
> so well, I was still on foodstamps, unable to keep the utilities from going
> off now and then, and that the crying of the cats and dogs left in my care by
> my best friend and parents when I ran out of food was starting to get to me
> and that it wouldn't be so bad if they hadn't have ripped off most of the
> estate after mother went and left me to die with all the bills, and it would
> have been much better if all the rumors in this backstabbing gossipy little
> town that I had been fucking my best friend in the whole world, a woman in!
> her 90's, and married her to swindle her out of her property, and that I had
> murdered both my parents and was dealing heroin to the elementary school
> children here hadn't have been reprinted by my cousin who works for the CIA or
> someone in his autobiography and sent around the world with my name attached
> to it.
> 
> But that I could live with it, just as I have been living with it for the last
> 18 months since mother went to heaven.  I hadn't told her yet that on top of
> all that, the tip of the iceberg, that yesterday I was over seeing some old
> friend of mine trying to get my computer fixed and their father came out and
> told me to take that thing off the pole (the giant american flag I fly on a
> pole on the back of my 30 year old rickety pickup for my father who was a vet
> and the 911 victims etc) and get that truck off his property and never show my
> face around there anymore.  It seems that on top of all the other great things
> that I am not but which other people seem to find it necessary to label and
> blame me with, I am unpatriotic for flying an american flag on my vehicle
> because I am not sitting in a wheelchair with all my arms and legs amputated
> from being wounded in WWII or Vietnam.
> 
> I related to my friend by email that I didn't feel so bad sometimes, even
> though I have lost 25 pounds from malnutrition, and that it was good I was so
> sane as I could mark the progress step by step that lack of good food does to
> the higher and other brain functions day by day, as I could look around the
> world, and even in this little crappy backstabbing town, and see people much
> worse off than myself, such as the Tsunami victims.
> 
> She then begged me to relate to her the name of the superstar millionaire who
> supposedly had an affair with my mother and hatched me that a woman called me
> up out of the blue 2 months after mother died and told me that story.
> Actually, the woman began by asking me if I knew where I got my name from, I
> said no, she said "Your name was the name of my son whom your mother adored,
> he was a medic in WWII and someone cried "Medic!!" on the battlefield
> somewhere in Europe and my son rushed out to save the american gi and the
> nazis shot him in the head, when he died your mother named you after him, I
> was your mother's best friend, I held you in my arms when you were just a
> baby, by the way, do you know who your real father was...?"
> 
> Well, needless to say, I was still reeling from my mother's death, and to hear
> that come from some lady's mouth who said she was my mother's best friend, had
> held me in her arms as a baby, and I was named after her dead son, 2 months
> after mother went to heaven was quite interesting.  I still wonder about it.
> And there is no one alive to confirm it, or those who could, won't.  She
> wouldn't tell me his name out right, but asked me if I was the son in the
> family with all the musical talent, instruments, vocals, etc, I replied yes,
> she then asked if I had seen a certain commercial on television about a
> certain product, I said yes, she said "That's him, that's your real father".
> She then said "So if you wonder why your brothers had treated you like crap
> your whole life and left you to die, it was because not only were you only
> their half brother and your father was magnanimous enough to take you in
> instead of putting you in an orphanage, but your mother walked around with you
> !
> and told everyone "This is my favorite son" always."
> 
> I contacted the millionaire superstar by email (actually usually you can't
> reach millionaire superstars, you reach their secretaries), and I related the
> story the woman had told me, and asked for confirmation, they got back to me
> once, and I never heard from them again.  I'm probably under federal
> investigation now or something for "harrassing a superstar millionaire", LOL.
> 
> Anyway, 18 months after mother has gone, I still sit here and wonder.  On top
> of all the vicious rumors, I remember the stories that 2 women here related to
> me a few weeks before they went to heaven, they sat me down and said they
> wanted to talk to me, and then asked if I remembered any of my childhood, I
> replied no that it was completely wiped from my brain for the most part, they
> replied that that was most likely because you were severely beaten as a child,
> forced to sit 2 inches in front of the television for hours dressed in your
> sunday finest, and then locked in a closet until you stopped screaming and
> someone finally came and let you out, and that you would go to school as a
> child and all the teachers and nurses would rush up to you and asked you what
> happened because all your arms and legs were covered with black and brown
> giant bruises everywhere and you would reply each time "Oh, I just fell down"
> and nobody would blink.  I never knew those stories, those 2 women we!
> re one who gave me my first job here and the 2nd was like my aunt or something
> who was a surrogate mother now and then when my mother was in an asylum
> getting shock therapy, who later due to my sole efforts from a pay phone in
> Manhattan I was able to finally force them to get a 2nd doctor's opinion
> before just throwing mother away again (40 years of shock therapy, oh boy),
> and they determined she was never "crazy" but had a simple severe thyroid
> gland deficiency.
> 
> Well, anyway, after I sent that email to my friend, the exact second after I
> sent it, my computer exploded.
> 
> That's why you haven't heard from me in a while.
> 
> Is this "Hell"..?  Is there a "God"...?
> 
> Uhhh.......    LOL............
> 
> How the fuck would I know.  LOL..........
> 
> Let me put it like this, though.  The extremes between the "good" and the
> "bad" on this planet are so vast, that if this is not "Hell", then we are
> definitely under an "occupation force" of one sort or another.
> 
> Aliens?  Ghosts of those gone before here on Earth?  Scientists from the
> Future with time machines?  The "Devil" and his minions?  An invisible race
> that has lived here forever?  Uhhh....  Take your pick, or make one up
> yourself.
> 
> However you slice it, it is not simply chance, coincidence, and the natural
> order of things that envelops this planet, inbetween the rays of sunshine,
> with chaos, destruction, death, and darkness.
> 
> I am now typing from an old laptop of mine I was finally able to get up.
> 
> This should be a good example for The New World Order why poor people should
> not be allowed access to computers and the Internet.
> 
> And how was *your* weekend.....?
> 
> In closing, I offer a little prayer.  Dear God, whoever you are, please fuck
> up all the bastards and bitches of the world who make our lives miserable with
> willful malice and other things, and protect us from all the things that go
> bump in the night that you were too drunk to lock up when you made them.  If
> we're going to endlessly suffer here, at least give us some fucking weapons to
> defend ourselves with.
> 
> Thank you.  Your pal,.
> 
> 
> 
> Cheeseburger
> 
> - No, no, honest, it's nothing, just go back to sleep, you're only
> dreaming..........
> 
> 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:48:53 -0300
> From: "Alexander Harper" <harperalexander at mail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Mb-civic] Re: Mb-civic Digest, Vol 7, Issue 22 HELP FOR
> 2ND    EX WIFE
> To: mb-civic at islandlists.com
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> I imagine they can be configured to work in the USA, Bear. I guest it is just
> a matter of cutting the right size hole in the bottom where the switch goes.
> I will check with  2ex.
> 
> Love
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Butler" <michael at michaelbutler.com>
> To: Civic <mb-civic at islandlists.com>
> Subject: [Mb-civic] Re: Mb-civic Digest, Vol 7, Issue 22 HELP FOR 2ND EX WIFE
> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:30:25 -0800
> 
>> 
>> Al Baraka,
>> Hit their website.
>> Don?t know if they will wok in the USA
>> Advise
>> Anything for the family
>> Bear
>> 
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