[Mb-civic] Cheating On God With Organized Religion

[Robin McNamara]

Hey Lyle

 I love tour stuff, I am a crazy man triying so hard not to be. :)

I think that God is a good thing & then if we thing we about spirit & then 
we "relax"


I love God

Robin



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lyle K'ang" <lyve at netzero.com>
To: <mb-civic at islandlists.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Mb-civic] Cheating On God With Organized Religion


>
> Cheesburger Double Whopper,
>
> When you're on, you're on.
>
> You wrote:
> "If there *is* a GOOD "God", then there remains simply you, God, and
> your soul."
>
> You have a definite and unique way of excercising your frontal lobe. 
> Perhaps, you can write a 20 pager, pdf file and I'll help you sell it for 
> a small cut.
>
> CAll it "GOOD GOD; YOU AND YOUR SOUL"!
>
>
>
> Lyle K'ang,
> ~~Enterprise Insights: Advanced Tools for Business Communications!~~
> http://www.SiloManagement.com
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>
> -- Cheeseburger <maxfury at granderiver.net> wrote:
> Cheating On God With Organized Religion
>
>
> Ok, we've all seen what Organized Religion is capable of doing in
> War.  It's not pretty.  From the Crusades to Modern America, twisted dead
> bodies, eyeballs hanging out, children cut in half staring at nothing
> anymore, and the loudspeakers blaring century after century "We are
> protecting our right to Worship Our God and Remain Free, Real Estate, Oil
> and Other Commodities we might capture are simply incidental, keep
> shooting, God is *only* on OUR side."
>
> It's kind of funny when you realize that each side that is shooting,
> century after century, has been shovelling the same Propaganda to their
> citizenry like it was going out of style.
>
> Ah, so they do have something in common after all.
>
> Which brings us to the origins of Organized Religion.
>
> If you're really sitting there in your easy chair, century after century,
> seriously believing that a GOOD God would have possibly have taken the 
> time
> to dictate or write down in a book all of the many detailed "rules and
> regulations" of various Organized Religions around the Earth, you're most
> likely just another duped customer, just like most everyone else.
>
> You might ask someone to prove that Organized Religion did *not* emanate
> from a GOOD "God", but then again, oops, you cannot prove that it *did*
> even if your butt was on fire.
>
> Go ahead, we'll wait, set your butt on fire and run around in circles
> shouting all the dogma and indoctrinations you've been steeped in forever
> trying to prove *any* God created *any* Organized Religion *anywhere* on
> the planet Earth.
>
> You can't.
>
> You can't prove it mathematically or any other way.  And don't run around
> shouting that you can prove it with your "faith", for Faith as far as
> "proving" anything, remains nothing more than a roll of the dice on the
> craps table.
>
> Any GOOD God did *not* sit around dictating stuff like "Ok, now you group
> wear the purple robes, you were the yellow robes, make that part there 4
> millimeters long, that part there should swivel to the left and be
> encrusted in gold, amethyst, and diamonds, if you catch a dog mating with 
> a
> sheep cut it's left ear with a knife, take the blood, mix it with chicken
> goop, and burn it on the altar on Tuesday at 2pm on the 4th month after 
> the
> 3rd full moon, then I will come and give all your old women babies who 
> have
> been good..."
>
> Pure crap.
>
> Men wrote that shit.
>
> God had nothing to do with both writing it nor creating the organizations
> that formed around it century after century.
>
> And the men turned it into both a tool and a weapon to serve their own
> personal desires.
>
> Oh, wait a second, men have religious organizations within their organized
> religions to excommunicate, banish, blackball etc people who talk like 
> that.
>
> If an actual *real* GOOD God really exists, his "Ways" have been obscured,
> diluted, and transposed into something even he wouldn't recognize long 
> long
> long ago by people who like to keep other people as sheep and screw them
> out of all the valuables they possess including their time, effort and 
> very
> souls.
>
> Let's make no mistake, however, "Organized Religion", no matter which
> Religion it represents and entangles, has become a definite power to
> contend with.
>
> It has seeped into everything from mass communication to politics to
> education to football games to excuses for mass murder and genocide to 
> your
> bedroom.
>
> And shows no indication of slowing down its momentum of lust for power 
> over
> everything, including everything on planet Earth.
>
> That so many people are so brainwashed, indoctrinated and steeped in the
> dogmas of their individual "Organized Religions" remains no surprise.
>
> It usually takes more than a couple of days to teach a dog how to shake
> hands.  But once it's learned how, it will push out its paw like clockwork
> without question every time its master commands.
>
> It has taken centuries and centuries to train mankind into barking and
> biting and killing any other being, act or semblance of any other
> "Organized Religion" other than their own.
>
> And the most of them, for the most part, do it without question.
>
> And if a real GOOD God actually exists somewhere, he is sitting there 
> right
> now scratching his head watching it all going "What the fuck.....!!!!".
>
> If you are sitting around today and a member of any Organized Religion on
> Earth with a book full of words you were handed as a child and possibly
> still carry around with you or read on a regular basis, and you swear up
> and down that "God" created those words in those books, you're basically
> not that bright.
>
> Actually, you ARE very bright most likely.  So is the dog who pushes out
> his paw each time he is commanded.
>
> It's just that both of you have been trained to respond to various
> commands, and neither of you questions, for an instant, that "God" didn't
> have anything to do with any of it to begin with.
>
> In all probability, any form of "Organized Religion" was and probably 
> still
> remains one of the farthest things from God's agenda to create, sustain,
> and perpetuate on Earth.
>
> If for only one second you could step down from your collective pedestals
> of "faith" and consider that as reality, you would for at least a tiny
> moment glimpse the tyranny of the fantasy world that you have been twisted
> into without one real word from "God" to guide you in even the slightest
> direction toward "Organized Religion".
>
> It has been and remains nothing short of a scam.
>
> If there *is* a GOOD "God", then there remains simply you, God, and your 
> soul.
>
> Nothing more, nothing less, nothing else.
>
> Everything else is bullshit.
>
> That men have suckered you into actually cheating "God" from his just due
> by indoctrinating and entwining you into their own control-freaking
> concepts of "organized worship" is not the illusion.
>
> It is almost everything you have been taught up to this moment that 
> remains
> the trap.
>
> But you just can't let go of it.  You can't work your way out of it.  It's
> become nothing more than a favorite piece of clothing you like to wear 
> each
> day.
>
> You've been bamboozled, for centuries.  By men.
>
> But you'd rather sit there and cheat God rather than admit that Organized
> Religion, and most of the words that accompany it, were written by Men, 
> and
> that God had MUCH better things to do than to sit on top of a mountain, on
> a cloud, or in the ether, and dictate the measurements for temples, the
> colors of robes, the amounts of gold etc that should be deposited to the
> high priests by the populations or what you should do with gay people if
> you catch them doing the nasty under the haystack etc.
>
> And you wear that piece of clothing proudly every day and display it like
> the world was coming to an end, and defend it with your life, and the 
> lives
> of people you not only will never meet but don't even know exist.
>
> A badge of stupidity.
>
> Originated from centuries of indoctrination.
>
> From *Men*.
>
> To control you like the bleating sheep you remain, professing YOUR ways to
> be the chief of them all from every mountain top that will bear you and 
> the
> heavy weight you tote to proclaim all your rightness to everyone you meet
> which you have been taught as you hold out your paw upon command.
>
> Go ahead, cheat God all you want, exchange him and your soul for whatever
> words you hold in some book in your hand written by Men, do whatever you 
> want.
>
> I'm all out of Alpo today.
>
>
>
>
> Cheeseburger
>
> - And God said "Cheeseburger, go forth, smite those stupid people with 
> your
> keyboard, wake them up, shake them from their illusions, delusions,
> brainwashings, indoctrinations, and all the lies, bring them back into
> reality, away from being simple dupes of ruthless Men century after
> century".  And Cheeseburger rolled over in his bed, yawned, and said "Oh,
> man, do I have to..?  It's New Year's Day, God..."  And God said "Go into
> the bathroom, Cheeseburger.  Behold.  Have I not given you toothpaste, a
> toothbrush, and soap with which to wash now and then..?"  And Cheeseburger
> replied "Ok, ok, ok, I get the picture..."   The rest, of course, is
> History.......
>
> .
>
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