[Mb-civic] Psychopathic Behavior

Fri Aug 19 13:14:28 PDT 2005

Isn't Wolwowicz polish/jewish or is he polish goy? If he is jewish I suppose you would class him as a 'trusty'.
AB
----- Original Message -----
From: "richard haase" <hotprojects at nyc.rr.com>
To: mb-civic at islandlists.com
Subject: Re: [Mb-civic] Psychopathic Behavior
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 13:49:01 -0400

> 
> including the anti semetism harper
> this was the faction in the us broadly speaking
> that backed hitler etc
> they are only using isreal for their own purposes
> i am a jew in america
> these people hate jews like rat poison
> would absolutely stick us back into the ovens if they could
> oh no this segment is broadly speaking same as the third reich etc
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alexander Harper" <harperalexander at mail.com>
> To: <mb-civic at islandlists.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 1:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mb-civic] Psychopathic Behavior
> 
> 
> > We don't disagree, actually. Of course he is being used by smarter
> psycopaths. There is no conceivable way that someone of his manifest
> (in)ablity could have reached where he has without a massive leg-up and
> massive, continuing back-up. These guys have much in common with those, who
> ran the 3rd Reich - obviously not the anti-semitism!
> > AB
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "richard haase" <hotprojects at nyc.rr.com>
> > To: mb-civic at islandlists.com
> > Subject: Re: [Mb-civic] Psychopathic Behavior
> > Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 12:15:42 -0400
> >
> > >
> > > i dont agree al
> > > i think he is a front man
> > > pure and simple
> > > obviously from that neck of the woods etc
> > > the right wing
> > > but i think hes got habits etc
> > > and they give him his shit and whatever else he wants
> > > and hes happy
> > > and could care less
> > > now maybe that is sociopathic
> > > but i think the active monsters are the ones pulling the strings behind
> him
> > > a la shaw and eliza dolittle on the album cover of my fair lady
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Alexander Harper" <harperalexander at mail.com>
> > > To: <mb-civic at islandlists.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 12:07 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Mb-civic] Psychopathic Behavior
> > >
> > >
> > > > Thanks, Lyle - that is really interesting and seems spot on. He is not
> the
> > > only world leader, who is basically a frightened psycopath, who has
> never
> > > properly emerged from adolescence. Unfortunately though he leads the
> world's
> > > only hyper-power. Clearly many voters vote for what they recognise in
> > > themselves.
> > > > AlBaraka
> > > >
> > > > From: "Lyle K'ang" <lyve at netzero.com>
> > > > To: mb-civic at islandlists.com
> > > > Subject: [Mb-civic] Psychopathic Behavior
> > > > Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 03:52:50 GMT
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Of Course He Is a Psychopath ...
> > > > >
> > > > > A BUZZFLASH READER CONTRIBUTION
> > > > > by Elizabeth
> > > > >
> > > > > ... or a sociopath -- the distinction here is insignificant.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm a mental health professional and psychopaths are a professional
> > > > > interest of mine. There is little doubt that Bush's is a
> > > > > psychopathic character structure.
> > > > >
> > > > > Another, and I think very appropriate term to describe psychopathy
> > > > > is emotional retardation -- an inability to experience higher
> > > > > emotions expressive of the highest human values (such as empathy
> > > > > and guilt, sympathy, compassion, devotion to common human ideals
> > > > > such as peace, for example, etc.).
> > > > >
> > > > > A psychopath is a person who uses his often considerable
> > > > > intelligence in the service of his primitive drives (think sex,
> > > > > aggression, power). Being fairly bright, he learns, imperfectly, to
> > > > > mimic emotional expressions suggestive of some higher emotions
> > > > > (compassion, for example), but his reactions hardly fool anyone
> > > > > because they ring hollow as there is no truth and authenticity in
> > > > > them. He can use lofty words when needed -- an easy thing for a
> > > > > fairly intelligent psychopath -- but there is no emotional content
> > > > > to them.
> > > > >
> > > > > Just look at Bush's responses whenever he is asked, unscripted,
> > > > > about anything that would require him to express either empathy, or
> > > > > caring and compassion for others, including his own family members.
> > > > > He stammers and stumbles, tries some platitudes or inappropriate
> > > > > jokes, and eventually makes a fool of himself. It is always painful
> > > > > to watch and it clearly demonstrates his emotional retardation.
> > > > >
> > > > > Even most recently, when asked about Cindy Sheehan, he responded by
> > > > > saying "And I think it's important for me to be thoughtful and
> > > > > sensitive to those who have got something to say." He followed it
> > > > > with "I think it's also important for me to go on with my life, to
> > > > > keep a balanced life."
> > > > >
> > > > > This statement in itself is very revealing. First, it sounds like
> > > > > something Bush has just learned to say on advice of his handlers
> > > > > who reminded him to pretend to be human (he *thinks* it is
> > > > > *important* for him to be thoughtful and sensitive ...). Not that
> > > > > he knows what this means, or that any of it resonates emotionally
> > > > > for him, as evidenced by how quickly he closed this statement with
> > > > > a glib reference to, what else, his own need for a "balanced life,"
> > > > > a reference that sounds so incredibly insensitive in this context
> > > > > that it completely invalidates the message intended in his previous
> > > > > sentence.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have no doubt that this emotionally flat and highly inappropriate
> > > > > statement came from the desk of one of his advisors -- which only
> > > > > shows that psychopathic leaders surround themselves with
> > > > > psychopathic handlers who are equally clueless about what it means
> > > > > to be a feeling human being. It's nothing new or surprising -- we
> > > > > have seen it before in the history of the world. But it's
> > > > > horrendously painful to witness.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bush's fumblings with statements that are supposed to express
> > > > > higher human emotions are not a proof that he is unintelligent in
> > > > > the conventional sense (i.e. intellectually impaired). His
> > > > > intelligence appears normal (= average at least) -- but it is the
> > > > > emotional sphere that is so dangerously underdeveloped in him.
> > > > >
> > > > > Notice that typically he does not encounter similar troubles when
> > > > > he talks about what is really close to his proverbial heart (not
> > > > > that he possesses a real one): power. All those swagger-filled
> > > > > threats, gestures of intimidation, and displays of bravado -- often
> > > > > in the most inappropriate contexts ("Shock and Awe," "Mission
> > > > > Accomplished," etc.) -- are further proof that we are dealing with
> > > > > intelligence in the service of primitive drives, combined with
> > > > > emotional hollowness. A.k.a. psychopathy.
> > > > >
> > > > > And while you're right that playing an armchair diagnostician is a
> > > > > task of dubious value sometimes, in case of G.W. Bush the evidence
> > > > > to support the diagnosis of psychopathy (or sociopathy) is just
> > > > > overwhelming and in plain sight for anyone to see. So if the shoe
> > > > > fits ...
> > > > >
> > > > > E.L. Doctorow's essay sums up the core of Bush's psychopathic
> > > > > character so well -- and so painfully for all of us who have
> > > > > retained humanity in our souls.
> > > > >
> > > > > The intelligence in the service of primitive instincts that Bush's
> > > > > actions and words represent; the raw aggressive power, unmitigated
> > > > > by thought or higher feeling; and the surge of compensatory
> > > > > confidence it engenders, are what appeals to a great segment of
> > > > > this -- or any other -- society, especially to its powerless and
> > > > > emotionally underdeveloped members. They rally around their leader,
> > > > > seeing in him both a reflection of themselves and a promise of a
> > > > > "victory" that would release their fears and frustrations, and
> > > > > avenge their sorry, hopeless fate. Of course what they do not
> > > > > realize is that their leader couldn't care less about their fate.
> > > > > To him, his minions are an echo chamber for his words and cannon
> > > > > fodder for his missions.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tragically, as a nation, we will remain in the dark ages as long as
> > > > > we keep choosing psychopaths as our leaders and pretend this is a
> > > > > good thing. And no matter how hard we will try to convince
> > > > > ourselves that what we yearn for are freedom and democracy for all
> > > > > (and whatever other ideals we choose to endorse by our words), our
> > > > > actions -- the choices we make, including our choice of the leader
> > > > > -- will keep telling the rest of the world otherwise. As shameful
> > > > > as it is, the psychopathic Bush represents America to the world.
> > > > >
> > > > > A BUZZFLASH READER CONTRIBUTION
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Lyle K'ang, MBA/IM
> > > > >
> > > > >
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