[Mb-civic] Psychopathic Behavior

Thu Aug 18 10:38:13 PDT 2005

We don't disagree, actually. Of course he is being used by smarter psycopaths. There is no conceivable way that someone of his manifest (in)ablity could have reached where he has without a massive leg-up and massive, continuing back-up. These guys have much in common with those, who ran the 3rd Reich - obviously not the anti-semitism!
AB
----- Original Message -----
From: "richard haase" <hotprojects at nyc.rr.com>
To: mb-civic at islandlists.com
Subject: Re: [Mb-civic] Psychopathic Behavior
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 12:15:42 -0400

> 
> i dont agree al
> i think he is a front man
> pure and simple
> obviously from that neck of the woods etc
> the right wing
> but i think hes got habits etc
> and they give him his shit and whatever else he wants
> and hes happy
> and could care less
> now maybe that is sociopathic
> but i think the active monsters are the ones pulling the strings behind him
> a la shaw and eliza dolittle on the album cover of my fair lady
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alexander Harper" <harperalexander at mail.com>
> To: <mb-civic at islandlists.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 12:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mb-civic] Psychopathic Behavior
> 
> 
> > Thanks, Lyle - that is really interesting and seems spot on. He is not the
> only world leader, who is basically a frightened psycopath, who has never
> properly emerged from adolescence. Unfortunately though he leads the world's
> only hyper-power. Clearly many voters vote for what they recognise in
> themselves.
> > AlBaraka
> >
> > From: "Lyle K'ang" <lyve at netzero.com>
> > To: mb-civic at islandlists.com
> > Subject: [Mb-civic] Psychopathic Behavior
> > Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 03:52:50 GMT
> >
> > >
> > > Of Course He Is a Psychopath ...
> > >
> > > A BUZZFLASH READER CONTRIBUTION
> > > by Elizabeth
> > >
> > > ... or a sociopath -- the distinction here is insignificant.
> > >
> > > I'm a mental health professional and psychopaths are a professional
> > > interest of mine. There is little doubt that Bush's is a
> > > psychopathic character structure.
> > >
> > > Another, and I think very appropriate term to describe psychopathy
> > > is emotional retardation -- an inability to experience higher
> > > emotions expressive of the highest human values (such as empathy
> > > and guilt, sympathy, compassion, devotion to common human ideals
> > > such as peace, for example, etc.).
> > >
> > > A psychopath is a person who uses his often considerable
> > > intelligence in the service of his primitive drives (think sex,
> > > aggression, power). Being fairly bright, he learns, imperfectly, to
> > > mimic emotional expressions suggestive of some higher emotions
> > > (compassion, for example), but his reactions hardly fool anyone
> > > because they ring hollow as there is no truth and authenticity in
> > > them. He can use lofty words when needed -- an easy thing for a
> > > fairly intelligent psychopath -- but there is no emotional content
> > > to them.
> > >
> > > Just look at Bush's responses whenever he is asked, unscripted,
> > > about anything that would require him to express either empathy, or
> > > caring and compassion for others, including his own family members.
> > > He stammers and stumbles, tries some platitudes or inappropriate
> > > jokes, and eventually makes a fool of himself. It is always painful
> > > to watch and it clearly demonstrates his emotional retardation.
> > >
> > > Even most recently, when asked about Cindy Sheehan, he responded by
> > > saying "And I think it's important for me to be thoughtful and
> > > sensitive to those who have got something to say." He followed it
> > > with "I think it's also important for me to go on with my life, to
> > > keep a balanced life."
> > >
> > > This statement in itself is very revealing. First, it sounds like
> > > something Bush has just learned to say on advice of his handlers
> > > who reminded him to pretend to be human (he *thinks* it is
> > > *important* for him to be thoughtful and sensitive ...). Not that
> > > he knows what this means, or that any of it resonates emotionally
> > > for him, as evidenced by how quickly he closed this statement with
> > > a glib reference to, what else, his own need for a "balanced life,"
> > > a reference that sounds so incredibly insensitive in this context
> > > that it completely invalidates the message intended in his previous
> > > sentence.
> > >
> > > I have no doubt that this emotionally flat and highly inappropriate
> > > statement came from the desk of one of his advisors -- which only
> > > shows that psychopathic leaders surround themselves with
> > > psychopathic handlers who are equally clueless about what it means
> > > to be a feeling human being. It's nothing new or surprising -- we
> > > have seen it before in the history of the world. But it's
> > > horrendously painful to witness.
> > >
> > > Bush's fumblings with statements that are supposed to express
> > > higher human emotions are not a proof that he is unintelligent in
> > > the conventional sense (i.e. intellectually impaired). His
> > > intelligence appears normal (= average at least) -- but it is the
> > > emotional sphere that is so dangerously underdeveloped in him.
> > >
> > > Notice that typically he does not encounter similar troubles when
> > > he talks about what is really close to his proverbial heart (not
> > > that he possesses a real one): power. All those swagger-filled
> > > threats, gestures of intimidation, and displays of bravado -- often
> > > in the most inappropriate contexts ("Shock and Awe," "Mission
> > > Accomplished," etc.) -- are further proof that we are dealing with
> > > intelligence in the service of primitive drives, combined with
> > > emotional hollowness. A.k.a. psychopathy.
> > >
> > > And while you're right that playing an armchair diagnostician is a
> > > task of dubious value sometimes, in case of G.W. Bush the evidence
> > > to support the diagnosis of psychopathy (or sociopathy) is just
> > > overwhelming and in plain sight for anyone to see. So if the shoe
> > > fits ...
> > >
> > > E.L. Doctorow's essay sums up the core of Bush's psychopathic
> > > character so well -- and so painfully for all of us who have
> > > retained humanity in our souls.
> > >
> > > The intelligence in the service of primitive instincts that Bush's
> > > actions and words represent; the raw aggressive power, unmitigated
> > > by thought or higher feeling; and the surge of compensatory
> > > confidence it engenders, are what appeals to a great segment of
> > > this -- or any other -- society, especially to its powerless and
> > > emotionally underdeveloped members. They rally around their leader,
> > > seeing in him both a reflection of themselves and a promise of a
> > > "victory" that would release their fears and frustrations, and
> > > avenge their sorry, hopeless fate. Of course what they do not
> > > realize is that their leader couldn't care less about their fate.
> > > To him, his minions are an echo chamber for his words and cannon
> > > fodder for his missions.
> > >
> > > Tragically, as a nation, we will remain in the dark ages as long as
> > > we keep choosing psychopaths as our leaders and pretend this is a
> > > good thing. And no matter how hard we will try to convince
> > > ourselves that what we yearn for are freedom and democracy for all
> > > (and whatever other ideals we choose to endorse by our words), our
> > > actions -- the choices we make, including our choice of the leader
> > > -- will keep telling the rest of the world otherwise. As shameful
> > > as it is, the psychopathic Bush represents America to the world.
> > >
> > > A BUZZFLASH READER CONTRIBUTION
> > >
> > >
> > > Lyle K'ang, MBA/IM
> > >
> > >
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