[Mb-civic] Crystal Meth

[richard haase]

hard drugs are the scourge of society
in my subjective opinion we need to smoke all the marijuana we can
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cheeseburger" <maxfury at granderiver.net>
To: "mb-civic" <mb-civic at islandlists.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 11:26 PM
Subject: [Mb-civic] Crystal Meth


> Re:  Crystal Meth
>
>
>
> Harold wrote:
>
> ========
> Crystal Meth is a deadly drug, the makers and distributors should be drawn
a
> quartered, and their guts pulled out while they are still alive.  I'm
sorry
> to sound medieval, but the criminal scourge/gangs in our society must be
> dealt with ruthlessly, no more tolerance/excuses or partial jail time,
just
> put the dealers down, like a sick mad dog.
> This comment is a follow up on my pervious posting of the CBC article on
> life sentences.
> Criminal gangs run freely in America because they have no fear, jail time
is
> a holiday. 1 in 142 Americans are in jail as of 2002.
> http://usgovinfo.about.com/cs/censusstatistic/a/aaprisonpop.htm
> Not a good stat.  That is over 2 million people, and those are only the
ones
> that have been caught!!  What does that tell you about American society. I
> would hate to have a pollster give a real ratio on the real % of criminals
> in America. Their math tends to be very correct. (within 1 or 2 %)  Point
> being, America has the most/greatest internal crime ratio than any other
> county in the world, WHY?
>
> Later H
> =============
>
>
>
> CheeseComment:
>
>
> That's a lot of questions there.  Next time start at The Top, from whence
> all the "criminal gang" activity sprang from originally, then work your
way
> down to The Bottom.
>
> You need to come and live in an apartment in Harlem or somewhere for about
> 10 to 20 years and then re-write your post there.
>
> You need to move to America to live for a while.  People "outside America"
> and outside the actual realm of all these "American Happenings" are doing
> just that, looking at it all from the outside and then commenting, just
like
> a lot of Americans themselves continue to do.
>
> They can't imagine why or how anyone would ever want to or be forced into
a
> gang or criminal activity in America the Beautiful.  Not for a second.
>
> They've never heard of Robber Barons, or if they have, they have forgotten
> them just like they have forgotten most of "American History" if they ever
> even knew it.
>
> I'm not saying that things like crystal meth or gangs are great things,
just
> that people don't understand how things happen and then comment on them.
>
> All this crap is "Trickle Down" from The Top of America.
>
> People are always saying stuff like "don't blame society or one's
> environment for criminal behaviour etc etc etc", when in Actual Reality,
> Society, Government, "One's Environment" that has been so thoughtfully
> engineered, have either created the conditions under which things like
> crystal meth and criminal activity become natural reactions, or sat on
their
> asses and simply watched it all occur and did nothing whatsoever to
neither
> prevent it nor fix it.
>
> If you yell loud enough perhaps you can get Americans in an uproar over
> Crystal Meth, like they are in an uproar over Marijuana.
>
> Yet, no matter how loudly you yell you will never get them to even blink
at
> things like 100,000 dead civilians murdered in the name of America.
>
> Drugs and The Bad Guys.  Bad stuff, sure.  Nothing compared to what The
Top
> has engineered.
>
> I put it to you again, how on Earth do you think things like "Drugs and
The
> Bad Guys" came to be if the creme de la creme of The Top of America did
not
> either create it or sit by and watch as it was created......?
>
> People like robber barons etc etc etc plundered America from sea to
shining
> sea for centuries.
>
> One of the great results has been drugs and the bad guys, gangs and
criminal
> activity.
>
> The poor American's answer to terrorism and starvation and you fucking
name
> it.
>
> The guy has 6 kids to feed, they lay him off at the plant, nobody will
hire
> him but McDonalds, he turns to crime.
>
> You blame him....?    Really...?    Him and his "inadequacies" etc and
> nobody else....?
>
> You need to spend several years in America in some of the inner city
> ratholes that robber barons etc created over centuries here, or now, it
has
> reached all the rural areas, you can just go to those and live for a while
> to get the same picture almost.
>
> It, in all cases, wasn't "Oh, let's invent criminal activities, gangs, and
> drug dealing because we want to", but rather "What are our options that
The
> Systems Of America have left us....?"
>
> They turned around, and there were very little options, unless they wanted
> to go on food stamps and welfare.
>
> Jobs are decreasing and being shipped overseas.
>
> The economy is a piece of crap, unless of course one already has a piece
of
> the Wall Street etc pie and can sit comfortably back and spit on the
vermin
> at the bottom, all those nasty criminals.
>
> I'm not saying that all criminals are *not* nasty ruthless murderous
people,
> in one way or another, but that rather there are TONS of people who in
their
> limited education perhaps, their limited perspectives, their limited
> environments, their engineered lives, their limited options, turned to a
> life of crime, just to be able to feed and house their fucking family.
>
> But it is those people who are to blame, not The Top, the creme de la
creme,
> of America, who REALLY helped to literally create, engineer, foster, and
> promote such "crime breeding environments" to this very fucking day.
>
> Bullshit.
>
> And The Top will continue to do so far into the future.
>
> The American prison system remains one of the most lucratively profitable
> systems in this entire country.
>
> It is not run strictly to put bad people in there for rehabilitation etc
> purposes.
>
> But rather to make sure their rooms will always be full.
>
> >From whence springs their paychecks.
>
> The more people in prison in America, the richer these people get, "bad
> people" or no "bad people".
>
> I could ramble on for quite a time on this subject, but I'm rather sure
> there are several other people who could ramble on about it much more
> intelligently and informatively than myself.
>
> I did, however, notice a missing statistic in your post about how many
> people, mothers, grandmothers, etc, those nasty criminal ruthless types,
are
> In American Prisons for simple Marijuana, or just for being in the same
room
> when a bust went down.
>
> It's a huge number.
>
> Oh well, regardless, my rambling is over, come live in America for a half
> century and get a real feel for it.
>
> You will probably finally figure out how all The Systems at The Top of
> America are specifically engineered to make The Bottom break its balls
just
> to survive, in many instances, and at about just the same time that we
> finally elect a black person to the Presidency.
>
> Sentenced to live a few decades in America, really taking a look around
> personally, and writing it all down, should at the very least give anyone
> from other countries something really neat to take back with them when
they
> leave to show to their neighbors.
>
> Other than just the same old dribble of look at all the ruthless horrible
> Americans.
>
> All us ruthless horrible Americans, at least here at The Bottom, have had
> lots and lots and LOTS of help from the really neat cool kind people at
The
> Top of America to just be able to hold our heads up from this slime and
> smile our toothless smiles.
>
> For Centuries.
>
> But everyone has basically forgotten how "all this bad stuff" got here in
> the first place, and perhaps it should just all be forgotten just like how
> we got into Iraq.
>
> Just like "Iraq", they don't really want to talk about it and play "The
> Blame Game".
>
> There wouldn't be enough prisons in America to hold the people at The Top
> after they got through playing it.
>
> Therefore, we at The Bottom, regardless of our inclinations toward crime
> etc, will remain the butt of their finger pointings until the end of
America
> itself, and under the current Systems, Laws, Etc's of Our Beautiful
America,
> we will continue to fill the prisons of this land rather than those who
> continue to create the environments that breed such things.  You remember
> them, they're at their ranches right about now sucking up the good life
> trying to get rid of food stamps, welfare, social security, and all
> ecological life on earth and indoctrinate future generations here as to
the
> benefits of remaining obedient brainwashed lemmings bred for consuming an
> endless stream of witless products as we're out trying to get Marijuana to
> cancer and AIDS patients.
>
> Unless of course, the Canadians come and save us.
>
> :)
>
> But wait a second, they're in Iraq fighting for Freedom and God too.
>
>
>
> Nevermind..........
>
>
> p.s.:  This was not an endorsement of either crystal meth or crime (which
> remains rampant at The Top of America), but rather just a stab at trying
to
> get people to think of how it all came to be, rather than just pointing
> their fingers, as people are endlessly wont to do, and exclaiming "Oh
look,
> the bad people", and never asking "How did this all happen....?  Who
created
> it....?"  Crime, drugs, and gangs have been around for Centuries.  So have
> the Fat Cats at The Top who have merrily bred and purposely engineered it
> into Society itself.  One never seems to hear anything about those people
> though.  Just the people in prison who have fallen prey, for one reason or
> another, to the Systems these assholes have carefully built.  A
"discussion"
> nobody will ever hear on the floor of The Congress Of The United States Of
> America.  Inbetween them shooting the finger at America Itself, there is
no
> time left for such folly.
>
>
>
>
> Cheeseburger
>
> .
>
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