[Mb-civic] Re: Salient Features

[richard haase]

i said precisely the opposite of what youre alledging
i said that the 40 million deaths all of them were equal
the non jewish deaths as important as the jewish ones

and yes i think talking about the up side of or amerliorating naziism is
obscene

i loathe the hawkish administration of isreal
and the reason i dont mention isreal
is that i dont think of isreal ever
identifying myself with yiddish culture
the assimilated jews like myself in the major european cities like freud
marx and einsteinn
i do not mention isreal because i never mention isreal
because i am totally unconcerned with isreal
personally
you have a habit cheesburger of erecting a straw man
and then going at it

i quite agree with everything youre saying about aspects of the catholic
church; the hawkish elements in isreal
etc
i do not support isreali commandos killing palestinian children
and i dont hate arabs
( who i actually find easier to deal with than isrealis )
actually the people in america currently suffering from the theological
descendents of naziism are black not jewish

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cheeseburger" <maxfury at granderiver.net>
To: "mb-civic" <mb-civic at islandlists.com>
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 4:12 PM
Subject: [Mb-civic] Re: Salient Features


> Re:  Salient Features
>
>
>
> Haase wrote:
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> and let us remember to say the nazis killed 6 million people cheapens
their
> attrocities
> the nazis killed 35 - 40 million
> most not jews
> and each non jewish life just as valuable
> you know whats interesting
> how people promoting the up side of hitler
> though the guise of intellectual discussion
> are really nothing but racists?
> at least thats my subjective opinion
> as someone who could have ended up as a lampshade
> with an autistic child who could have been euthenized
> it is my subjective opinion that if there is a hereafter
> all nazis will burn in hell
> just my opinion
>
> richard haase
> jew
> ============
>
>
>
>
> First, I never realized you were a Jew.  If I had, it would have made it
> much more palatable taking the labels of jew hater, holocaust lover, and
> Nazi that were slung around here in the open.
>
> Secondly, while there is certainly nothing to be proud of about Nazism
that
> was in full swing about 60? years ago, I see no mention of Israeli
> atrocities and racism listed above that has been happening ever since we
got
> rid of Hitler.
>
> As far as the above reference to "the Nazis killing only 6 million
people",
> I'll have to hand that one off to "The Jews" for ramming that particular
> number home at every instance through the collective American and World
mind
> for the last 60 years in every television and radio show, newspaper
article,
> and movie that I can remember.  Apparently the other 35-40 million were
> relatively irrelevant in comparison to "The 6 Million", or at least to
them
> personally, or at least to their nationalistic? publicists.
>
> Everyone's race is greater and more nobler than anyone elses.
>
> If you ever doubt it, just ask them, and they'll set you straight on it.
>
> I think part of the articles you read were not trying to unemphasize the
> deadly sickness of people like Hitler, but to rather just show that some
of
> the roots they came from were just presented like just ordinary run of the
> mill "Necessary Social Changes", just like they are being presented today
as
> we forget the 100,000 dead civilian men women and children Iraqis.  That's
> how they started:  "A really cool party and concepts for the people..!!".
> That what they turned into is not in question.  That they were able to
dupe
> and deploy entire nations to do their bidding in the murders of millions
of
> people is a practice that is still in use by major players on Earth even
> today.
>
> America and Israel being just 2 of them currently.
>
> Both have become adept geniuses at manipulating the racist qualities they
> themselves have either bred, fostered, or allowed to grow, in their own
> people, for their own purposes at "The Top".
>
> That such current Racism continues to cost so many innocent civilian
lives,
> trauma, disaster, and irreparable damage to the social thread and order of
> this planet, continues to be lost among their other atrocities which are
no
> longer even reported about for the most part.
>
> You're sitting there talking about Hitler.
>
> I'm sitting here watching Hitler still hard at work but not talking German
> anymore, and flying any other flag almost other than that of The 3rd
Reich.
>
> And nobody blinking an eye.
>
> And people like Bush and Sharon and Etc being lauded as "The New Peace
> Bringers Of Planet Earth", lining up and practicing in front of their
> mirrors for their acceptance speeches when they receive the Nobel Prize
for
> their ghoulish efforts at nobility.
>
> Ok, I've rambled on enough about Current Nazism in the disguise of "People
> Bringing You Freedom" in today's market of death.
>
> I'll just close with the Pope.
>
> I can't imagine Jesus Christ forming a relatively deadly and disgusting
> organization like the Vatican, and appointing such bishops, etc's, and
> Popes, giving them 2 foot tall hats, different colored robes, vast
> political, social, etc powers over the nations, policies, and peoples,
> giving them rings that everyone must kiss in order to be in their
presence,
> and then smiling and passing out the bread and wine and saying "Eat, this
is
> my body, this is my blood".
>
> If he was alive today, Jesus would be pissing on all of their heads, not
> walking sadly by the coffin of just one of a string of leaders of such an
> organization with his head bowed and weeping for the cameras.
>
> Such things as The Vatican, and all their various powers over various
> people's actual lives, not counting al the people they have had murdered
> over all these centuries in the name of God and their demented little
human
> brains, remains one of the last things some little guy named Jesus Christ
> would have ever dreamed of creating in his wildest nightmare.
>
> Nazis...?  Sure, of course, deadly murderous pissants not worthy of the
spit
> off our shoes.
>
> Compared to the New Powers of this New World Order already here and coming
> and getting stronger every day..?  Mere pipsqueaks.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Cheeseburger
>
> .
>
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