[Mb-civic] US still outsourcing torture

[Cheeseburger]

Re:  US still outsourcing torture


Harold Sifton wrote:

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PS in the 60's Americans were well liked, now the world considers them " 
selfish assholes". Were did they go wrong ........ greed ??
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Harold, first I'll have to agree with you that there is something wrong 
with a "Freedom Loving Democracy" that tortures people to begin with, 
whether off the coast of our mainland, or shipping them to other countries 
where torture is an accepted way of everyday life.

Secondly, as far as "where did America go wrong?  Greed?", I dunno...

I don't think the average American considers themselves "greedy".

I think that a more accurate view might be that we are trained from birth 
to be avid, reliable consumers.

Let's just start with Cartoons and Sugar.

Inbetween every cartoon on earth is a commercial.  Aimed at children.  Not 
excluding the rest, but especially the tiniest of them.  Sugar sugar 
sugar.  Eat our cereal.  Look what is inside the box..!!  Etc etc etc.  We 
are trained to related "something free inside the box" to the sugar high we 
get hooked on as children from the earliest of ages.  Everybody on TV seems 
to make us want to laugh, mysteriously tells Mom somehow to buy that great 
sugar stuff for us, and always is giving us free stuff in boxes of it, as 
well as showing us all the other great stuff we should have in our lives 
that we see the other kids on TV playing with.

By the time we're 10, who knows how much sugar we've slammed into our 
bodies, or how many braincells have been instructed like trained seals to 
want everything on earth.

And, oh my, the "Super Powers" that go with all those great cartoons and 
sugar is something no child anywhere could ever resist wanting.

Not only do we get to learn endlessly, from birth, about all the great 
products that we *should* have in our lives, but we get all this neat stuff 
in boxes, get all the sugar highs we can stomach, and are promised Super 
Powers on top of it all.

Who could really resist...........?

We're like consumer puppies, or is that puppets.  "Train the children from 
the earliest of ages" so they will know exactly what is expected of them, 
sit up, roll over, beg, shake hands, bark, play dead, eat and drink sugar, 
buy products, don't worry your Super Powers are on their way.

Greed...?  I dunno...  In reality, collectively and individually stacked up 
against certain things in "the rest of the world", indeed, Americans might 
be one of the "greediest" people around.

However, I don't think they really view it as that, as to them, it is what 
they have known, and been trained to "act out" from the moment they were 
first sat in front of a TV and handed a box, bowl, can, or bag of sugar 
stuff and told "Ok, now sit there watch TV and don't move, I have to do 
something..."

It's just "The way we were brought up", at least many of us.

On to "Violence", and our tolerance for watching it and dismissing it as 
almost nothing.

Again, we are literally trained from birth by watching TV that if the duck 
hits the rabbit in the eye, the rabbit can run away, and the eye grows back.

When the hunter shoots the ducks mouth off, the duck simply reaches up, 
grabs his bill, and turns it around until it is back into the proper place.

Body parts always grow back.  We know that for a Fact.  We learned that, 
among other things, on TV.  And TV would never lie to us, they make us 
laugh, show us great new things we need in our lives, and Mom gives us all 
the sugar stuff we see on it just as long as we will sit there and leave 
her alone while she's ironing, washing the dishes, or mopping the floors.

I forget the statistics, but it something phenomenal when they count up all 
the acts of violence an American child has viewed on television by the time 
they are 10 years old or something.

We are lulled into this false world where heads grow back, everyone is 
hitting, kicking, shooting, slamming, and throwing off cliffs everyone else 
constantly and making us laugh at the same time it is happening, we're 
getting plenty of that good sugar stuff, watching great new things we just 
know we need in our lives as all the other kids must have them already, 
free stuff in boxes, and, yep, our Super Powers must be in the mail on 
their way to us.

Our "greed" is ingrained into us from birth here, Harold.

Brainwashed into our thin little skulls with plenty of sugar stuff, free 
stuff in boxes, great looks at great products we just automatically know 
every child needs, all the violence we can take in which makes us laugh 
because body parts always grow back, and, yes, that's right, our Super 
Powers are on their way.

By the time we're 14 (a lot of us), we're real pips.

Being trained to succeed at all costs, slit anyone's throat who gets in our 
ways, still consuming tons of sugar, almost completely immune by that time 
to something called "Violence", still getting free stuff in boxes, still 
stuck in front of the TV, and, yes, that's right, our Super Powers are 
still on their way.

Well, the actual psychological consumerological etcological profile 
indoctrinated make-up thingy of many average American children from birth 
to adult hood in this land of the Sugar Mountain with the barkers and the 
colored balloons, is much more intricate, and much much longer, and for 
some other time and some other place.

Foreign Affairs...  There is only America.  Every other place is somewhere 
most of us will never go to.  In that respect, we're like most other 
countries, trained that outside the borders of our country is a world which 
is so different than ours that we must be on constant guard unless they 
slip into ours while we are asleep and slit all our throats.  The average 
"Trained In Nationalism" story.  So very global.  So very sad in its 
continued isolationism, racism, and hate everyone but us isms.....

Most adult Americans can't even tell you for the most part what is going on 
even 3 States away from their State.

It isn't on the TV, it isn't in the newspapers, it isn't on the radio, and 
the people next door have no idea either.

So that leaves anything like "Foreign Affairs" about as familiar to many 
Americans as aliens from Neptune are.

Brazil?  Sure, I know that one, they grow nuts or something there.

Columbia?  They have coffee.  Canada?  It's cold up 
there.  Argentina?  Never heard of it.  Chile?  Yeah, we got some in the 
kitchen cabinet.  Zaire?  Betty had that last year, but she saw a doctor 
and got rid of it.  Lithuania?  I think that was the name of our 
parakeet.  Taijikistan (sp)?  I think that was the name of an Alfred 
Hitchcock movie.  Australia?  They have kangaroos there.  Rumania?  Betty 
had that too, I think she still has it.

Well, the list and listings of this kind of stuff is *literally* almost 
endless.

"Greed" to "the outside world", whoever the fuck that is, sure, they see it.

However, to many of us, it's simply what we have known from birth.

Eat sugar, laugh at them blowing the heads off for as we all know they 
always grow back nobody really ever dies, buy everything you see on TV 
because the neighbors have it who cares who dies or suffers so it can reach 
our table, there is no other *real* nation except our own, everyone else is 
just a wannabe and if they get the chance they will kill us all in our 
sleep, who cares what's going on 3 States away from ours we can't get any 
news here where we are about what's going on there to begin with so it must 
be just like where we live even though we know *Our State* will always be 
better than any of those other ones, we still get free stuff in boxes, and, 
yes, our Super Powers are on their way.


Cheeseburger mumbles something about Super Powers, scratches his butt, 
ambles over to the door marked "Canada", opens it, reaches in and gets a 
beer, says "Hi Harold", and sits down in front of the TV to watch what God 
has to tell him inbetween football games.

He doesn't really know how Harold got into his refrigerator, he's just 
thankful that God made Canada so he would always have cold beer.

:|




Cheeseburger

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