[Mb-civic] RE: military service-the true story

[Spyhouse]

This is why I hate politics.

 

Parties and people grabbing at anything to suit their needs.

 

Even something as subtle as layout and even sending this out period has a
purpose.

 

It's all so pathetic and so is sending this stuff.

 

Who served now 'matters.'  

 

Where was this email and the SOB who sent this out in 1992 or 1996 when 'it
didn't matter'?

 

I notice that at the top of the GOP list was who did not serve, but barely
any Democrats or liberal press people (at least 85%) who did not serve
appear in the list, much less at the top.

 

Having no interest in looking at this, I had to run a search to find Clinton
(presumably he was in Canada frustrating the search engine).  Why he not at
the top of the Democrats as was the most important GOP?

 

By the way, McCain and Carter honorably went to Annapolis and that was not
mentioned, and how about Colin Powell?

 

As long as we are straddling fences and making implications, why not comment
about Bob Kerrey's little problem in Vietnam that he acknowledged and ended
his higher political aspirations?

 

It's all crap and this is why America including myself, is so cynical.

 

I will again cut and paste something I sent you earlier that sums these dog
and pony shows.

 

Candidate addresses the people - babies (awww, tear in eye), soldiers who
came before us and died for us (sigh, hat off, hand over heart), jobs
(hooray), apple pie and baseball (go America!), better economy (cheer),
strong defense against them (yeah, 'take that' them), and my lousy opponent
(boo hiss), so in conclusion, shucks (get the middle American Mr. Smith goes
to Washington fan/vote with that word), vote for me (insert name and party
here).

 

I forgot to add.manipulated fact about my opponent (boo hiss), manipulated
fact about me (cheer)

 

Hum bug!

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Ian [mailto:ialterman at nyc.rr.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 8:02 PM
To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;
Subject: Fw: military service-the true story

 

 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: "Ian" <ialterman at nyc.rr.com>

To: "Civic" 

Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 10:59 PM

Subject: military service-the true story

 

 

> A friend just sent this to me.

> 

> Peace.

> 

> ------------

> 

> This could be the last election where military service in Vietnam has any

> political currency. But just for the record, it's worth noting who really

> served among the heavyweights in each of the major political parties. Be

> sure to check out the bottom where the people who spend their time
jabbering

> about military service (the TV pundits) have their military credentials >
exposed.

> 

> > Democrats

> > * Richard Gephardt: Air National Guard, 1965-71.

> > * David Bonior: Staff Sgt., Air Force 1968-72.

> > * Tom Daschle: 1st Lt., Air Force SAC 1969-72.

> > * Al Gore: enlisted Aug. 1969; sent to Vietnam Jan. 1971 as an army

> > journalist in 20th Engineer Brigade.

> > * Bob Kerrey: Lt. j.g. Navy 1966-69; Medal of Honor, Vietnam.

> > * Daniel Inouye: Army 1943-'47; Medal of Honor, WWII.

> > * John Kerry: Lt., Navy 1966-70; Silver Star, Bronze Star with Combat V

> > Purple Hearts.

> > * John Edwards: did not serve.

> > * Charles Rangel: Staff Sgt., Army 1948-52; Bronze Star, Korea.

> > * Max Cleland: Captain, Army 1965-68; Silver Star & Bronze Star,

Vietnam.

> > * Ted Kennedy: Army, 1951-1953.

> > * Tom Harkin: Lt., Navy, 1962-67; Naval Reserve, 1968-74.

> > * Jack Reed: Army Ranger, 1971-1979; Captain, Army Reserve 1979-91.

> > * Fritz Hollings: Army officer in WWII, receiving the Bronze Star and

> seven

> > campaign ribbons.

> > * Leonard Boswell: Lt. Col., Army 1956-76; Vietnam, DFCs, Bronze Stars,

> and

> > Soldier's Medal.

> > * Pete Peterson: Air Force Captain, POW. Purple Heart, Silver Star and

> > Legion of Merit.

> > * Mike Thompson: Staff sergeant, 173rd Airborne, Purple Heart.

> > * Bill McBride: Candidate for Fla. Governor. Marine in Vietnam; Bronze

> Star

> > with Combat V.

> > * Gray Davis: Army Captain in Vietnam, Bronze Star.

> > * Pete Stark: Air Force 1955-57

> > * Chuck Robb: Vietnam

> > * Howell Heflin: Silver Star

> > * George McGovern: Silver Star & DFC during WWII.

> > * Bill Clinton: Did not serve. Student deferments. Entered draft but

> > received 311.

> > * Jimmy Carter: Seven years in the Navy.

> > * Walter Mondale: Army 1951-1953

> > * John Glenn: WWII and Korea; six DFCs and Air Medal with 18 Clusters.

> > * Tom Lantos: Served in Hungarian underground in WWII. Saved by Raoul

> > Wallenberg.

> > * Wesley Clark: U.S. Army, 1966-2000, West Point, Vietnam, Purple Heart,

> > Silver Star. Retired 4-star general.

> > * John Dingell: WWII vet

> > * John Conyers: Army 1950-57, Korea

> >

> > Republicans

> > * Dennis Hastert: did not serve.

> > * Tom Delay: did not serve.

> > * House Whip Roy Blunt: did not serve.

> > * Bill Frist: did not serve.

> > * Rudy Giuliani: did not serve.

> > * George Pataki: did not serve.

> > * Mitch McConnell: did not serve.

> > * Rick Santorum: did not serve.

> > * Trent Lott: did not serve.

> > * Dick Cheney: did not serve. Several deferments, the last by marriage.

> > * John Ashcroft: did not serve. Seven deferments to teach business.

> > * Jeb Bush: did not serve.

> > * Karl Rove: did not serve.

> > * Saxby Chambliss: did not serve. "Bad knee." The man who attacked Max

> > Cleland's patriotism.

> > * Paul Wolfowitz: did not serve.

> > * Vin Weber: did not serve.

> > * Richard Perle: did not serve.

> > * Douglas Feith: did not serve.

> > * Eliot Abrams: did not serve.

> > * Richard Shelby: did not serve.

> > * Jon Kyl: did not serve.

> > * Tim Hutchison: did not serve.

> > * Christopher Cox: did not serve.

> > * Newt Gingrich: did not serve.

> > * Don Rumsfeld: served in Navy (1954-57) as aviator and flight

instructor.

> > * George W. Bush: six-year Nat'l Guard commitment (in four).

> > * Ronald Reagan: due to poor eyesight, served in a non-combat role

making

> > movies.

> > * Gerald Ford: Navy, WWII

> > * Phil Gramm: did not serve.

> > * John McCain: Silver Star, Bronze Star, Legion of Merit, Purple Heart

and

> > Distinguished Flying Cross.

> > * Bob Dole: an honorable veteran.

> > * Chuck Hagel: two Purple Hearts and a Bronze Star, Vietnam.

> > * Duke Cunningham: nominated for Medal of Honor, Navy Cross, Silver

Stars,

> > Air Medals, Purple Hearts.

> > * Jeff Sessions: Army Reserves, 1973-1986

> > * JC Watts: did not serve.

> > * Lindsey Graham: National Guard lawyer.

> > * G.H.W. Bush: Pilot in WWII. Shot down by the Japanese.

> > * Tom Ridge: Bronze Star for Valor in Vietnam.

> > * Antonin Scalia: did not serve.

> > * Clarence Thomas: did not serve

> >

> > Pundits & Preachers

> >

> > *  Sean Hannity: did not serve.

> >

> > *  Rush Limbaugh: did not serve (4-F with a 'pilonidal cyst.')

> >

> > *  Bill O'Reilly: did not serve.

> >

> > *  Michael Savage: did not serve.

> >

> > *  George Will: did not serve.

> >

> > *  Chris Matthews: did not serve.

> >

> > *  Paul Gigot: did not serve.

> >

> > *  Bill Bennett: did not serve.

> >

> > *  Pat Buchanan: did not serve.

> >

> > *  Bill Kristol: did not serve.

> >

> > *  Kenneth Starr: did not serve.

> >

> > *  Michael Medved: did not serve.

> 

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