[Mb-civic] I apologize for the vile words!

[Lyle K'ang]

Obvious to me-I was role playing-the devil's advocate- 
Still I did offend our guests and our guests were easily led into battle because of ego offending trash talk. If there were losers and winners, which some tend to think, that is not ALL there is in life. 

Lessons learned: No separate trash talk section---this is it! You can get yourself kicked out of here or give the moderator your SS# and join the happy family. That is revolution in nature-right? Or is it who's paying and who makes the rules? We are ALL guests.

There was mention that a revolution was on---how noble the cause-and you get runned over by the tank...count several flat Chinese bodies; the Kirds fight, Hubert Walker calls on them-100,000+ mass graves later-is Bush Sr. being tried or will W. ever get tried in an International court of law for war crimes? Revolution-the Beatles said, 'Count Me Out' and how prophetic. We are changing but unfortunetly not the whole.

I am a libertarian and voting for Kerry...fiscal responsibility, government out of religion and religion out of government.

The two recent wars we managed to go into-one was false (Kuwait was slant drilling, not Hussien), and this present war was for total and complete power. Oil, Domination, Control, Israel, Brown & Root, Haliburton, are important but just sub-interests. Russia would more than applaud if we the US would go bankrupt. That's what we did to them.

The biggest sleeper, now awakening is China (owns 300+B of our debt). Bush thinks he's cozy with them and Vladamir-how far from the truth. US flexes its muscles, we're right back into Vietnam. I've always said, 'watch out for China'.

Boeing told me-don't worry about China, their quality sucks-right and apple pie and Chevrolet is ALL we want right? Chinese GNP largest in the world. The World's greed moves the machine.

However, most of you know your politics and do carry on respectful discussions, however, I am appalled at the lack of civility and tolerance about my subjects which I try to introduce on spirituality. 

You see, if we develop policy in the region in which we fight today to bring back the three (3) states or regions in Iraq (Iraq is not natural it was made up), which were there before the Brits came in to destroy, we would again 'see' that spirituality will bring war to a halt by establishing these peoples' homelands', Deities, God's, and Beliefs again-and get the fuck out-stop with the 14-17 bases being built now.

You played around with the 'Buffalo', that Barbara shared and you play around with the 'Jewish' thing again. You really can't go too much deeper than surface issues. One man is stuck solid on his Christian beliefs because he was told at an early stage in life-not to  have false images or craven images. By God Almighty-it's the same group and hypocrisy that nearly wiped out Hawaii.
 
It's the same trash culture which preach against-Gays! Approve of God! & Guns-same group or belief structure which overthrew a monarchy because corporate greed to establish and continue the sugar industry dictated how the Christians in the US House, -Senate during that period were going to think. Sounds ever so familiar.

Jesus Christ Almighty! He was a very good teacher, sear, prophet and so are many others. There are many others-Jesus THE Christ, Jesus Christ, keep up----Allah!, Come on now---Jehovah, and YOU! YES YOU! 
Get it together, let's ALL learn together-don't whimp out on me and accept your destiny or you are not created in his image-therefore you cannot divine??!! 

Give me a break and ratchet up the level to include RESPECT when considering sacred topics. More than one-sided, more sides than only your narrow thoughts. Stop pontificating-it shows.

It's as though we don't know that their are several cultures, several belief systems and history evolved in our discussions. It's slanted. We're preaching to the choir-yes, we all want Bush out and we are NOT all Christians and there are those that are agnostic. So what the hey--

Now, I know that the current administration is anti-Palestinian. Bush is surrounded by jews???? not palestinians? in his top brass. I am not anti-semitic, I love the jewish people as a whole but when a few speak for the rest of the jewish people in actions, I am disgusted at what these people can do for Israel while at the same time 'hope' or lean towards a  'YES' that the second coming comes around for their base and the jews are eliminated. Help is no where for the Arabs. The Fascists in MY governemnet are developing, through Boeing, a low yield A bomb-scientific research at its best, but it falls hard when compared to the spirits' of man's childish and innocent nature.

I believe Burger hit many of the main points about the politics and history, now all we have to do is have discussion amongst us about WHY?. The religious infrastructure-is the major source of misunderstanding in the World. 

So what is this board anyway? Just to show off, shove issues in our face or is this a discussion board.

I seem to have gone over my time-I can hear the buzzer so I'll close.
I hope no one takes me out on my phrasing, or stuttering, or spelling or trivial human weaknesses and understands, where if I where an Indian which I am, or a Black man, which I am, or a Filipino, which I am, or a German, which I am, cannot ever gain the same level ground of communication as the white men throughout histories of his documentation of atrocities, it is sad. 

All I wish to do is be understood, just like you do. If we can't look deeper then we are a collective farce, high brow, shallow, spin-our-wheels, and rub our taps on the sidewalk, fastened to our shoes so the young kids can watch the sparks fly in awe!

Fuck You ALL! Especially Cheney! He taught me how to say those words, or was it HAIR. However, I do apologize for my not living up to my full worth and contribution and the harm that I cause, I apologize that my vibrations are not higher and closer to the source-that he/she would hear and command wars to stop. Perhaps, I have been insensitive. I apologize, that my ego is so fragile that I can not in a moment turn man's hediuos thoughts to thoughts of joy! 

Finally, I see the loud buzzer is vibrating my 'balls' now. I close again, and ask you to go visit an Indian tribe today, and see how much they want Kerry to win. Too much past and present ignorance, crime, and genocide has happened already.

Revolution-in mind, in thinking, in change, I think NOT! There is only you and I.


Thanks,

Lyle K'ang


-- "richard haase" <hotprojects at nyc.rr.com> wrote:
shut up lyle its all because of you anyway
lol
yes i didnt think kerry was brilliant
but he was certainly brilliant in comparison to bush
who is nothing but a stupid spokesperson for very evil people in my
subjective opinion
obviously im a life long liberal 95%+ democract when im not an independent
very far left
a la between roosevelt and sweden
so im certainly voting for kerry obviously
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lyle K'ang" <lyve at netzero.com>
To: <mb-civic at islandlists.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 1:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Mb-civic] cheeseburger for president


>
> Hey do you guys ever take a break? D
> id you happen to see the debates and how brillaNT Kerry was?
> Enough with the anal talk-who started that anyway-gees you guys are
terrible, M80s & dynamite-whoa!
>
> Lyle K'ang
>
>
> -- "richard haase" <hotprojects at nyc.rr.com> wrote:
> well
> i say if fucking baker
> who cant get a visa
> can sue me for libel from south africa
> for e shit
> i will open my ass to him
> metaphorically speaking
>
> also burger
> i think youre also starting to forget exactly which fight
> youre having with whom
> i thought lyle was the one who had to substantiate
> and i was just sub humanly poisonous or something
> ?
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Cheeseburger" <maxfury at granderiver.net>
> To: <mb-civic at islandlists.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 1:11 AM
> Subject: [Mb-civic] cheeseburger for president
>
>
> > Re:  cheeseburger for president
> >
> >
> > Richard Haase wrote:
> >
> > ======
> > pst lyle pst lyle are you in there
> > whadya say we wait until cheeseburger is asleep
> > and stick a firecracker up the sparrows ass?
> > have a good night buddy
> > i think all the capital letters hes using may be a sign of impending
> > psychosis
> > anyway
> > ill bet half an m 80
> > would blow that little sub chicken to four different continents
> > simultaneously
> > what do you think?
> > or shall we just stick pins in its eyes and burn it alive?
> > please write back lyle buddy and tell me what you think
> >
> > richard
> > in project land
> > ( as i reach maturity ive given up all hope of being good )
> > and please dont lecture me for being naughty
> > youre the people who did hair right?
> > ( not that i mean to quote liz swados to anyone )
> > id never do that consciously
> > never
> > peace love
> > ( and i cant resist needling a good psychotic )
> > hey cheeseburger re the sparrow
> > when are you gonna break down and eat the thing?
> > just curious
> > ( rolls another )
> > I LEARNED THIS FROM YOU HAIR PEOPLE!!!!!!
> > WHEN I WAS A CHILD YOURE ALL I EVER WANTED TO BE!!!
> > I HAD PICTURES OF MICHAEL BUTLER IN MY ROOM INSTEAD OF BASEBALL
PLAYERS!!!
> > ITS NOT MY FAULT I TELL YOU
> > I GREW UP EMULATING GERRY RAGNI
> > ALL RIGHT??? ALL RIGHT??? ALL RIGHT???
> > OH THE HUMANITY!!!!...........
> > ========
> >
> >
> > So, you can't find the actual proof in Baker's own words to substantiate
> > your Public Libel of him here.
> >
> > That makes you a purebred asshole right about now.
> >
> > And nobody has to put up any proof of that anymore, as you just got
> through
> > putting it up all by yourself.
> >
> > You've come here forever and LIBELED Baker.
> >
> > Now you've finally been asked to PROVE your LIBEL.
> >
> > And you fucking not only didn't, but you can't.
> >
> > Again, that makes you an ass, no matter how much you want to joke about
> it.
> >
> > LIBEL is no joking matter, at least not to me.
> >
> > Nor is saying things like you hope "a black man shoots Baker in the back
> of
> > the head".
> >
> > You want to fuck around with this "Oh, I'm really not heavily into
jewish
> > stuff see guys? but Baker is a nazi anti-semitic holocaust lover
anyway".
> >
> > The next time you do it, here in Public, I'm going to, here in Public,
rip
> > you a new asshole.
> >
> > Instead of just being cordial like this.
> >
> > You come here and call Baker just about every fucking thing in the book.
> >
> > Can NOT put up any evidence for all that shit flowing out of your mouth.
> >
> > And then state that you hope a black man in South Africa shoots him
dead.
> >
> >
> > You're a fucking asshole, Richard.
> >
> > Anyone who gives you money for "projects" might as well just vote for
Bush
> > in this election.
> >
> > No fucking difference *whatsoever*.
> >
> >
> > Again, PUBLIC LIBEL is **A BAD THING** to do.
> >
> > Especially when you can NOT even mildly PROVE IT.
> >
> > LIKE NOW.
> >
> > But to top it all off with PUBLICLY "hoping a black man in South Africa
> > shoots Baker to death" means you are not only a =Race Baiter=, as most
> sane
> > people here have already figured out long ago all by themselves, but a
> > deadly and malicious one as well.
> >
> > You're the exact kind of person who just LOVES to take a shit on top of
> > other people's heads, In Public, not be able to provide any proof for
your
> > shitting on their heads in Public, and then starts whining when people
> > begin to object to you shitting on people's heads In Public with nothing
> > VALID to back up your bullshit.
> >
> > You're a dime a dozen at this late date.
> >
> > And yet, even in the face of all your shitting on people, baselessly,
you
> > still have the balls to come here and ask people for Millions of Dollars
> > for your "projects".
> >
> > I hope they don't give you a fucking dime.
> >
> > They most likely haven't, or you wouldn't still be sitting here begging
> for
> > other people's money to throw away on your own crap.
> >
> > Again, it was not so long ago that you kept coming here asking Baker for
> > Marianne Faithful's number so you could cash in on her fame.
> >
> > Just like you asked me for it.
> >
> > And now you're sitting here telling him, and everyone else here, In
> Public,
> > that you hope he gets shot to death by a black man in South Africa.
> >
> > If you want to talk about anyone being *PSYCHOTIC*, I think you have
> > absolutely no room to move as you have already caught yourself by your
own
> > ass and fried yourself by your own hand.
> >
> > I'm just here reporting it for the hard of hearing.
> >
> > So now you're going to call Baker a nazi, anti-semitic, jew hater,
> > holocaust lover, and publicly express your hope that he gets shot to
death
> > by a black man in South Africa.
> >
> > And then you're going to call me a "Psychotic" for pointing out your
> > baseless Bullshit and Libel which you came here and put up In Public but
> > when asked to provide Proof for it all you just couldn't hack it.
> >
> > How odd that that's exactly how Bush and the rest of his gang operate.
> >
> >
> > The only thing you failed to observe was that, unlike you, Richard, I
only
> > play with my food for so long before I end its suffering.
> >
> >
> > If you're going to sit here and make other people like Baker, me, or
> > whomever, baselessly and needlessly suffer, as you have now been doing
for
> > quite some time, then you certainly, beyond a shadow of doubt, shall
reap
> > what you sow.
> >
> > In spades.
> >
> > Live it up.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheeseburger
> >
> > - Where has the sparrow gone now that I need its song.
> >
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